Dan Fox, one of our more talented members, has produced another video of the Auburn Veterans Day march and our participation therein. See the Auburn March page for those videos and other photographs.
I was one of about sixty Vietnam War veterans honored by Congresswoman DelBene on Friday, November 10th, the day before Veterans Day. I spoke to one of the speakers, Major General Bret D. who served with my unit, the 7/17 Air Cavalry. He was kind enough to give me a transcript of his Veteran’s Day 2017 Speech.
The ceremony was part of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs’ 50-year commemoration of the Vietnam War, which saw more than 2.7 million Americans serve. “Thank you for your service to our nation, we salute you,” DelBene said to the crowd, many of whom were veterans wearing service hats.
Other speakers included Maj. Gen. Bret D. Daugherty, who commands the state’s Army and Air National Guard forces.
The Redmond Reporter ran a brief story about the ceremony–it appeared on the front page of their November 17th issue and on their website. The following is an excerpt from that source.
Growing up, Daugherty said he saw images of soldiers returning from the war. Veterans Day is an opportunity to thank soldiers and celebrate those who survived wars and conflicts, he said. “I believe that we owe a special thanks to those of you that served in the Vietnam War.” Only 6 percent of Americans are veterans, Daugherty said.
Soldiers don’t choose to go to war, but Daugherty said they answer the call of duty. “America is protected by ordinary people who choose to do extraordinary things with their lives,” he said. Even after their time with the military, Daugherty said their service continues by being active citizens and participants in society.
Francisco F. Ivarra, president of the Washington State Council of the Vietnam Veterans of America, addressed the crowd. Ivarra said he recently talked with an author who was documenting the stories of Vietnam veterans to be housed in the Library of Congress. He said this, along with other recognition, is important to him and other veterans of the war. “We did our part, we did what we were asked to do and we didn’t say no,” Ivarra said. His organization has made inroads for veterans by helping them get services and access to help and assistance over past decades.
The final speaker, Dr. Bill Couser, a Vietnam veteran who received a Purple Heart, said there were acts of heroism made by ordinary Americans all throughout the war. “We took care of ourselves, we took care of each other,” he said.
Following the speakers, Ivarra called the names of the veterans in the crowd as they were presented with a commemorative pin for their service in Vietnam.
After the ceremony, DelBene again thanked the veterans for their service, and said one veteran in the ceremony said this was only the second time anyone had thanked them for it.
Quoting from a Redmond Reporter article, it goes on to say,
“The Vietnam War started in 1955 after decades of the country being colonized by various countries and partitioned, beginning with the French Empire in the mid and late 1800s.By the late 1960s, America became heavily involved in the war in opposition to the forces in North Vietnam, which wanted to unify the country under a communist system.
More than 58,000 Americans were killed in the conflict, as well as millions more combatants and civilians on both sides. The war faced backlash in the U.S. and many American soldiers who returned faced social stigma. According to the Vietnam Veterans of America website, when soldiers returned from Vietnam, the U.S. government did not make taking care of them a priority. This didn’t begin to change until 1978, when a group of veteran activists formed the organization and began petitioning Congress for funding, services, and recognition. ”
There are more than 200,000 veterans in Washington state who served in the Vietnam war.
The chapter participated in the Wall That Heals this summer. This video tells that tale.
Jim LePenske highly recommends this film that discusses the role of medivac crews in Vietnam. Perhaps it will also move you to tears.
The Flying Heritage and Combat Armor Museum in Everett is holding an event to feature aircraft (especially helicopters) used in the Vietnam war. This will be held Saturday the 23rd from 10:00 to 14:00 hours. They assure me veterans will be admitted for free.
PICTURES OF THE MEETING
EARLY EVENT PICTURES
This link is a letter we got from the Public Radio station in Spokane after The Wall that Heals weekend.
Jerry Mellick <firstname.lastname@example.org> sent me this summary of a talk he gave to the VHPAWA meeting in Spokane. Here is the (edited) verison.
As you will remember, one of our East Side members, John Johnson, asked me to give a short talk on using the VA Health Care System in addition to the VA Health Disability System at our meeting last Saturday. Later, he asked me to see if I could have it posted to our Web Page so it is always available. T
The biggest thing is that the two elements of the VA don’t play with each other. Being some percentage of Disabled doesn’t necessarily translate to being in the Health care system. I was perfectly happy with my health care using Medicare and Tricare for Life and I pushed back at the VA in their runs at me to get me enrolled at the Spokane VA Hospital. Finally, a VA rep in Orlando, who had a booth at our VN Pilots Reunion some years back, asked me to give him 15 minutes. To make a long story short, the VA is really looking for “healthy” Veterans like me (I’d been giving helicopter rides when he talked to me). He explained that the VA receives a dollar amount for every Veteran that is enrolled in the Health Care System and when (healthy) guys like us are enrolled and don’t need treatment, they can use the funds for the veterans who need a lot of help.
It is a simple process and there is NO requirement to use the VA if you don’t want to. Although they are on the leading edge if you need to obtaining quality glasses and hearing aids.
The requirement is to take a physical once a year. It was a very comprehensive oral history and exam. At my first one, they offered up a lot of stuff, but I didn’t need that.
Since I’m a Type II Diabetic, they have been seeing me twice a year to check my condition subject to availability. Beyond that, I don’t have any contact with them.
Like I said Saturday, initially, I thought I was doing them a favor, getting an additional physical each year and that was it. Then I realized that given the condition of Medicare funding and the frailty of Tricare, I’d actually positioned myself pretty well if things went to hell in the current healthcare world. If sometime downstream I had to depend only on the VA, I didn’t want to have some issues and be trying to get enrolled in their system.
You can just go out to your local VA facility and get enrolled, at least when I did it, that is how it worked. Once enrolled, they scheduled me for a physical.
Hope this makes sense.
PS: in my searching, I found my letter to my Army buddies on the CRSC and CRDP programs that each of our services provide. Here is the paper I wrote on this. I get about $400 a month from the Army for CRSC and it offsets some of the $700 a month the Army takes from my Retirement pay for my VA Disability. It is worth looking into. Each Service manages the program. In addition, when I applied, I got a $18,000 back pay check too.
http://www.dfas.mil/retiredmilitary/disability/crsc.html is the pertinent DFAS web site.
Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) is a program that was created for disability and non-disability military retirees with combat-related disabilities. It is a tax-free entitlement that you will be paid each month along with any retired pay you may already be receiving. The form for this is DD Form 2860 and the address is on the form.
Somewhere I read that the purpose of the CRSC was to offset the deduction of military retired pay due to the award of the VA Disability Pay, but I cannot not find that reference.
There are two programs: Combat-Related Special Compensation (CRSC) and Concurrent Retirement Disability Pay (CRDP). Both are programs created by Congress to allow eligible military retirees to receive monthly entitlements in addition to retired pay.
CRSC is a special compensation for combat-related disabilities. It is non-taxable, and retirees must apply to their Branch of Service to receive it.
CRDP is a restoration of retired pay for retirees with service-connected disabilities. It is taxed in the same manner as your retired pay, and it is normally considered taxable income. No application is required. Eligible retirees receive CRDP automatically.
The criteria for both of these programs are spelled out at the site I provided up above and others at that location. Based on the criteria spelled out there, I could only apply for the CRSC.
I stumbled on to this by accident back in March. Actually, the Army sent me info about these programs in the past, and due to my thinking, I didn’t qualify for either, given the words Combat Related. Consequently, each time I looked into it, I didn’t do anything about it.
In early March that year, I was at the local VA Vet Center that is set up in Spokane to assist veterans with a variety of things. In addition to support groups, counseling, job hunting etc, it is also staffed with volunteers from the Order of the Purple Heart, VFW, American Legion etc to help with VA Disability claims. Apparently, the VA puts more credibility into claims from Soldiers who go through and designate someone like the VFW to act in their behalf.
I went in to ask for assistance on finding an address to send a request for an upgrade consideration to the VA Disability system as I couldn’t find one. Since I’m grounded due to my need to take insulin for my Type II Diabetes which I already had a rating of 10% for due to my VN service and Agent Orange exposure, I decided to ask for an upgrade as I’d been advised that Insulin usage results in a higher rating.
While I was there, getting set up with the VFW counselor, another counselor handed me a form about this CRSC/CRDP program. I told the gentleman that I didn’t feel I qualified for either given that I didn’t have any “Combat” related issues, just service connected. He pointed out that there was a section on the form for Agent Orange issues, and given it was March and I had my flight jacket on, the gentlemen said rather forcefully: “Fill out the damn form Colonel”.
Given the rather forceful (and appropriate) advice :-), I applied in early March with the Army at Ft. Knox, and got approval within about 45 days and got my first monthly check on July 1st. The award letter gave me 10% award for Type II Diabetes based on exposure to Agent Orange and 10% for Tinnitus based on Military Service. It also said that the award was effective May 2008.
Initially, when I got the money in my checking account from DFAS, I didn’t know if this was a monthly check or the total, so I went to “MyPay” and it was made clear to me that it was a monthly pay. It also said if any retroactive pay was due, it would be paid in 30 to 60 days. In August of that year, I received from the Army a check for nearly $18,000. Not sure how that computes based on the monthly stipend and the retroactive date, but I don’t care.
As of now, this is all I know on this subject.
If you are receiving a VA stipend for Service connected disabilities, and your award is less than 50%, I believe that you will find a like amount being deducted from your US Army Retired pay. I had to sign a waiver of my retired pay, and I thought that the waiver was mandatory to have a VA disability claim. At least that is what I was told at my Retirement out processing when I signed the waiver form. However, I know of no one, with a VA rating below 50%, that this isn’t the case for.
Not sure what the military retirement status is of all of the folks on my military email list, so I’ll qualify this note right off the bat so you can discard it if you don’t fall into the following categories:
- Military Retiree and are entitled to and/or receiving military retired pay;
- Be rated at least 10 percent by the Department of Veteran’s Affairs (VA;
- And have waived your VA pay from your retired pay.
I recently applied for, and received, Combat Related Special Compensation (CRSC) from the US Army, both in the form of a tax free monthly stipend, and a tax free retroactive lump sum payment.
I thought you might like to hear it again. It really moves many to tears.
John Shafer is pleased to report the Vietnam Helicopter Pilot and Crewmember Monument Dedication Ceremony is scheduled on Wednesday, April 18, 2018, at 4:00 PM in the Arlington National Cemetery (ANC) Memorial Amphitheater and the post-ceremony reception at the Women In Military Service For America Memorial located near the cemetery entrance. We anticipate strong attendance.
We have just seen the stone to be placed during the ceremony.
For advanced planning, it would be wise to arrive at the cemetery at least one to two hours early, as Arlington National Cemetery (ANC) requires all visitors to go through a simple security screening process and the distance to the Memorial Amphitheater is some distance from the entrance. We are negotiating for bus transportation from the visitors center, but the bus is somewhat small and we anticipate a waiting line as the ceremony time approaches.
Please contact Bob Hesselbein, Chairman Legacy Committee
Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association for more details.